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Free Agency Thread--Put all cap posts here--Admin

Here's the list of free agents.


BevoMav

Keepers:

Dez
Dwayne Harris
George Selvie
Cole Beasley
Chris Jones
Sterling Moore

Let em walk:

Lance Dunbar
Tony Hills
C J Spillman
Jeremy Parness
Tyler Clutts

Depends on Price:

Anthony Spencer
Doug Free
DeMarco Murray
El Kabong

DeMarco Murray: I’m not worried about my future

Posted by Josh Alper on January 12, 2015, 3:29 PM EST

When time ran out on the Cowboys season on Sunday, the clock started on the window the Cowboys have to re-sign running back DeMarco Murray before he hits the open market.

Murray is set to become a free agent and said Monday that he didn’t know how things would play out with the Cowboys. He declined to answer a question about how much he wanted to return and said that his mind hadn’t moved on from the loss to the Packers just yet.

“I’m not worried about my future. I just lost a big game, the biggest game of my life. Just not worried about it right now,” Murray said, via Jon Machota of the Dallas Morning News. “

Murray closed his year with 25 carries for 123 yards and a touchdown, the 13th time in 18 games that Murray finished with at least 100 rushing yards. The touchdown was his 15th, but Murray’s day also included a lost fumble for the sixth time since September.

The positives outweighed the negatives, although forecasting what all of it means for Murray’s future in Dallas isn’t easy. Murray led the league in rushing, played all 16 games and has a few years to go before he hits 30. He was also used heavily, ran behind a strong offensive line and plays a position that has generally not proven worth big, long-term outlays of cash.

What that adds up to will be one of the big storylines heading into free agency, although Murray probably doesn’t need to worry too much about interest in his services.
BevoMav

El Kabong wrote:
DeMarco Murray: I’m not worried about my future

Posted by Josh Alper on January 12, 2015, 3:29 PM EST

When time ran out on the Cowboys season on Sunday, the clock started on the window the Cowboys have to re-sign running back DeMarco Murray before he hits the open market.

Murray is set to become a free agent and said Monday that he didn’t know how things would play out with the Cowboys. He declined to answer a question about how much he wanted to return and said that his mind hadn’t moved on from the loss to the Packers just yet.

“I’m not worried about my future. I just lost a big game, the biggest game of my life. Just not worried about it right now,” Murray said, via Jon Machota of the Dallas Morning News. “

Murray closed his year with 25 carries for 123 yards and a touchdown, the 13th time in 18 games that Murray finished with at least 100 rushing yards. The touchdown was his 15th, but Murray’s day also included a lost fumble for the sixth time since September.

The positives outweighed the negatives, although forecasting what all of it means for Murray’s future in Dallas isn’t easy. Murray led the league in rushing, played all 16 games and has a few years to go before he hits 30. He was also used heavily, ran behind a strong offensive line and plays a position that has generally not proven worth big, long-term outlays of cash.

What that adds up to will be one of the big storylines heading into free agency, although Murray probably doesn’t need to worry too much about interest in his services.


I am concerned with Murry's fumbles. In the teams 5 losses, he fumbled in three of them. All three of these fumbles went a long way to the loss.

If he doesn't fumble against Washington, the team has a bye and we play GB at home. If he doesn't fumble yesterday it is most likely they are on their way to Seattle.

Running backs are everywhere. One that fumbles don't last long.
admin

I WANT ALL CAP AND CONTRACT POSTS HERE, INSTEAD OF TRYING TO SORT THROUGH DIFFERENT THREADS ALL OVER THE BOARD.
Nightrider

Cowboys offer to Murray, is just saying goodbye. 4Yrs 16 Mil is really an insult.
BevoMav

Jerry Jones in an interview with the Dallas Morning News (WED Jan 13th) said the team would be a player in free agency.

He listed the biggest need as pass rushers. In particular Def Ends.

oh..and nearly everyone in the media says Dallas is ready to move on without Murray. The word is the Barber contract has soured them on giving long extensions to running backs. Used to be RBs were good to age 30. More and more we are seeing them decline before then.
zigomanis18

We COULD have both Dez and Demarco if Romo restructured his salary.  Brady, one of the best to ever play the game, just did it for the SECOND time in his career. Ultimate team player. Romo needs to follow and be a team player. Rothlisberger did a few years ago as well. Step Up Tony!
BevoMav

zigomanis18 wrote:
We COULD have both Dez and Demarco if Romo restructured his salary.  Brady, one of the best to ever play the game, just did it for the SECOND time in his career. Ultimate team player. Romo needs to follow and be a team player. Rothlisberger did a few years ago as well. Step Up Tony!


Jones was asked this exact question about retaining both and he said it is possible but might hurt the teams ability on other moves.

This team can't continue to spend on offense and ignore the defense.
Hawk

zigomanis18 wrote:
We COULD have both Dez and Demarco if Romo restructured his salary.  Brady, one of the best to ever play the game, just did it for the SECOND time in his career. Ultimate team player. Romo needs to follow and be a team player. Rothlisberger did a few years ago as well. Step Up Tony!


I thought it was a well known fact that Tyron and Romo, had this built into their contracts.

I was watching Mike and Mike and their consensus was that Murray is the guy the Cowboys need to keep right now. But I see the Cowboys signed Williams locking him up on the team.

Dez is one of JJ's pets, but I think JG does't have those same feelings.
Desperado

Williams just signed a reserve contract that means its not guaranteed. So he got some up front money($10,000) and a invitation to training camp. Has no impact on whether they re-sign Murray in the off season.
Desperado

zigomanis18 wrote:
We COULD have both Dez and Demarco if Romo restructured his salary.  Brady, one of the best to ever play the game, just did it for the SECOND time in his career. Ultimate team player. Romo needs to follow and be a team player. Rothlisberger did a few years ago as well. Step Up Tony!


You want to keep Murray, ask Dez to take less, that will do it.
Hawk

GEE....SOUNDS LIKE SOMETHING I SAID IN A SHORTER VERSION.

Fish’s Cowboys 2015 Salary Cap Roster Primer .. clip and save this! January 15, 2015 9:12 AM

IRVING - The "Cowboys cap hell" memes have steered you wrong. The Dallas Cowboys' salary-cap circumstances now, more than ever, include an almost endless assortment of choices, tools, levers, triggers ... Or, if you prefer to insist that Jerry Jones' NFC East champs are in mythical "cap hell'' ...  shovels, to dig their way out.
Let's bullet-point our way through this starting with what sounds like an absurd thesis:
The Cowboys can afford anybody they want. The Cowboys can do anything they want.
Including ... build the 2015 roster by first carving out an incredible total of $49 million of room!
Here goes ...
*Dallas has about $4.5 mil left of space to roll over into 2015.
*The projected salary cap for next season currently stands between $140 and $145 million. For this exercise, I'm projecting the cap for 2015 to be $142.5 million.
*The Cowboys have $138.3 million committed to salaries for 44 players for 2015. So go with $8 mil of room for now.
Now, let's start carving:
*Tony Romo is slated as a $27.8 mil cap hit. Want to reduce that?
There's a restructure that moves $16 mil from base salary to signing bonus (his base would still have to be league-minimum, roughly $1 mil prorated over five years, and would give the Cowboys an additional $12.8 million of  cap space.
*This is a good point to note: I'm not necessarily recommending Dallas do this, or any of the other tools I'm about to detail. I'm not yet predicting it, either (though I bet the Cowboys will restructure Romo in some form.)
*Jason Witten’s total cap hit of $8.5 million still carries one final year of big signing bonus hit. It would probably behoove the team to keep Witten one last year before walking away prior to 2016. But for the sake of the argument: If the Cowboys were to move on from Witten prior to '15, the club would reap savings of just under $3.3 million with a dead money impact of $5.24 mil on the '15 cap.
*Brandon Carr, as a June 1st cut, would have its benefits. Dallas would get $8 mil in 2015 cap space to work with. The downside is that $7.4 million would now be 2016 dead money, but the pain is greatly lessened to tear up Carr’s deal in this manner and start anew.
*Doug Free has $12 mil earmarked currently. ... but that's a mirage. He's actually a free agent. Signing Free to a two- or three- year deal could still see Dallas saving about $3 million off this cap hit.
*Henry Melton, in the likely event Dallas chose to move on completely from him, would only cause the team to eat $750,000 in dead money, meaning the move would save them $8.5 mil off their projected cap hit.
*Dallas will only need about $2.5 million of their space to sign their rookie class in the upcoming draft.
*Tyron Smith's huge contract offers the choice to turn any future year of his 10-year extension from base salary to signing bonus. This is, in effect, a $9-mil safety valve whenever Dallas chooses to use it.
*Dez Bryant needs a new deal. As I reported when the Tyron deal went down, it helps Dez, not hurts Dez.  Flip that Tyron switch and Dallas would seemingly have more than enough to sign WR Dez Bryant to his long-term 100-mil deal.
How can it for? A $20-mil signing bonus and a $1-mil base salary would put his 2015 cap hit at $6 million.
A franchise tag might be coming. But an ensuing deal for Dez needn't be that difficult.
*The Cowboys could make qualifying offers to their RFAs of Leary, Harris and Beasley and spend another $6 million there.
This solidifies their starting offensive line, wide receivers and their special teams.
*Want a little more room? Reap some savings by moving on from players such as Terrell McClain and Mack Bernadeau, individually worth more than $1 mil of base salary each.
*The Cowboys need to buy some linebackers. Rolando McClain signed for a $3-mil cap hit in 2015? Keep Bruce Carter or Justin Durant for less than that?
*Without using all these triggers and tools, I’ve got Dallas still having over $12m in “useable” space remaining.
Go nuts and use all the tools? You  could have, in theory, $49 MILLION of ROOM!
*So Dallas CAN sign DeMarco Murray. (Not that I believe that's happening.) CAN pursue Suh. (Again, a wild hypothetical but worth the discussion now that you know the numbers.) CAN pay Dez whatever it takes. (While trying to convince him that the more he's paid, the fewer puzzle pieces the Cowboys can support him with.)
So there is no "cap hell." There is simply the budget and the room and the ways to make it all fit.
Now we're ready to discuss it all ... and the Cowboys themselves are ready to act.
BevoMav

Hawk wrote:
zigomanis18 wrote:
We COULD have both Dez and Demarco if Romo restructured his salary.  Brady, one of the best to ever play the game, just did it for the SECOND time in his career. Ultimate team player. Romo needs to follow and be a team player. Rothlisberger did a few years ago as well. Step Up Tony!


I thought it was a well known fact that Tyron and Romo, had this built into their contracts.

I was watching Mike and Mike and their consensus was that Murray is the guy the Cowboys need to keep right now. But I see the Cowboys signed Williams locking him up on the team.

Dez is one of JJ's pets, but I think JG does't have those same feelings.


Let's be clear. When players restructure their salary, they are not giving up any money. They are simply converting some of it to a signing bonus that can be spread out of the balance of the contract.

As for the Salary Cap, there is this in the Dallas Morning News:

Quote:
The Cowboys enter this offseason in much better shape than they were a year ago. They’re actually a few million under the projected 2015 salary cap. What’s more: The Cowboys can free up about $44.5 million of salary cap space in 2015 with a few moves. That would certainly allow them to bring back both Dez Bryant and DeMarco Murray. Staff Writer Brandon George explains how Dallas can do it:


Here is how they would do it.

Quote:
1) The Cowboys can create $15.5 million when right tackle Doug Free’s deal voids in mid-February.




Quote:
2) The Cowboys have a three-year, $24 million option on defensive tackle Henry Melton they aren’t likely to pick up that will free up $9 million in space in 2015.


Quote:
3) Quarterback Tony Romo has the NFL’s highest 2015 cap hit at $27.773 million. But the Cowboys can create $12.8 million of cap room by converting $16 million of Romo’s $17 million base salary into a signing bonus. Pushing more possible dead money down the road on a soon-to-be 35-year-old quarterback coming off of two back surgeries is certainly risky.


Quote:
4) The Cowboys can create $8 million more in cap space if they decide to make cornerback Brandon Carr a post-June 1 cut.


Quote:
5) The Cowboys can add $8.16 million of more 2015 cap room by turning $10.2 million of left tackle Tyron Smith’s fully guaranteed $11.039 million base salary in 2015 into signing bonus money.


I still think Murry is a goner. The tear just can't keep giving huge contracts to the offense while ignoring the defense. Until they fix this defense they will never win a Super Bowl.

How many more years will I be saying this?
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Hawk

The most important thing was to protect Romo, and we still need some work doing that.

Its not signing bonus its actually guaranteed money.

Garrett has said since day 1 its a process, Defensive help is coming.

I don't want to make a list of WRer's who have been overpaid by the Cowboys.
BevoMav

Hawk wrote:
The most important thing was to protect Romo, and we still need some work doing that.

Its not signing bonus its actually guaranteed money.

Garrett has said since day 1 its a process, Defensive help is coming.

I don't want to make a list of WRer's who have been overpaid by the Cowboys.


Make a list but it won't include Dez.
Hawk

BevoMav wrote:
Hawk wrote:
The most important thing was to protect Romo, and we still need some work doing that.

Its not signing bonus its actually guaranteed money.

Garrett has said since day 1 its a process, Defensive help is coming.

I don't want to make a list of WRer's who have been overpaid by the Cowboys.


Make a list but it won't include Dez.


If we pay the child, he'll be the most over paid player in the NFL cyclops_ani
Nightrider

Come on what other team has an offensive player who runs on the field after a defensive play. Don't need Garrett when Dez can yell at the refs.

Give Dez what he wants, with other players being asked to take less. Well to me that's pure stupidity. You risk the chance of ruining the morale on this whole team.
BevoMav

Dez is the best player at his position in the NFL. The reason the passing game works so well is 95% of the time...according to Tony Romo...he is double covered. That puts single on every other player on the field.

and the great advantage to this..Romo knows it when he steps up to the line of scrimmage.

but..go ahead and hate on Dez..ye of tiny brains.
Hawk

BevoMav wrote:
Dez is the best player at his position in the NFL. The reason the passing game works so well is 95% of the time...according to Tony Romo...he is double covered. That puts single on every other player on the field.

and the great advantage to this..Romo knows it when he steps up to the line of scrimmage.

but..go ahead and hate on Dez..ye of tiny brains.


You are like an old mule, stubborn as they come. Prime example of a one track mind. Try and allow others to have their opinions. I see not 1 person hating on Dez, but I do see some facts being stated.

You really should try looking at the whole picture.
BevoMav

Hawk wrote:
BevoMav wrote:
Dez is the best player at his position in the NFL. The reason the passing game works so well is 95% of the time...according to Tony Romo...he is double covered. That puts single on every other player on the field.

and the great advantage to this..Romo knows it when he steps up to the line of scrimmage.

but..go ahead and hate on Dez..ye of tiny brains.


You are like an old mule, stubborn as they come. Prime example of a one track mind. Try and allow others to have their opinions. I see not 1 person hating on Dez, but I do see some facts being stated.

You really should try looking at the whole picture.


The whole picture? You mean like he was First Team All Pro and led the league in touchdowns for the second year in a row. Or that, according to PFF, he faced double coverage more than any WR in the NFL?

I want them to keep Dez and Murry but clearly the Cowboys think Dez is more valuable to the team. To some all he does is catch touchdowns.
LoneStar

Dez and Murray, what about the other 23 FA's?

 Well sorry he's no Megatron and a real poor mans Randy Moss.

Your stats really don't mean anything, when you consider guys like Brady might throw to 11 different players on any given day.

You have way to much love for this guy.   He' got the IQ of a box of rocks.
You turn a blind eye on the fact he still has a baby sitter. This guy is not controllable, and I see things really going bad when you make him wealthy.

Call that hate instead of facts!

Fact Dez is not on the list for MVP, but WRer Brown is! Dez is not in the top 5 for yrds either. Double teamed, that one makes me laugh. All the years I watched the great Cowboy teams, their #1 WRer's could beat double coverage.
BevoMav

LoneStar wrote:
Dez and Murray, what about the other 23 FA's?

 Well sorry he's no Megatron and a real poor mans Randy Moss.

Your stats really don't mean anything, when you consider guys like Brady might throw to 11 different players on any given day.

You have way to much love for this guy.   He' got the IQ of a box of rocks.
You turn a blind eye on the fact he still has a baby sitter. This guy is not controllable, and I see things really going bad when you make him wealthy.

Call that hate instead of facts!

Fact Dez is not on the list for MVP, but WRer Brown is! Dez is not in the top 5 for yrds either. Double teamed, that one makes me laugh. All the years I watched the great Cowboy teams, their #1 WRer's could beat double coverage.


Too many Cowboys haters here. I need a break. See ya come next season.
Hawk

Simply by your own logic, we would keep Murray. 1st team all pro, over 1800 yrd rushing, best in the NFL. Leading the MVP voting by fans, at over 60 %.

You always get pissed when others don't agree with you. Thxs for leaving us with another insult. Do you notice this is a discussion, where you are the only one insulting .

The Cowboys will keep Bryant, and you can dance your jig. I'll be waiting to see what it does to the team.
BevoMav

Hawk wrote:
Simply by your own logic, we would keep Murray. 1st team all pro, over 1800 yrd rushing, best in the NFL. Leading the MVP voting by fans, at over 60 %.

You always get pissed when others don't agree with you. Thxs for leaving us with another insult. Do you notice this is a discussion, where you are the only one insulting .

The Cowboys will keep Bryant, and you can dance your jig. I'll be waiting to see what it does to the team.


I was just saying what the word on the street is on the Cowboys priorities. I have no idea what they are going to do but everything I have heard and read says Dez is a great priority than Murry.

Update: Jerry Jones said Romo won't get off his back about telling him he needs to step up and sign Dez and Murray.

Update: Word going around is they will sign Dez and if Murray doesn't sign they will use the transition move on him..one year 7.7 million

but..next time I talk to Jerry, I will bring this up.

BevoMav

Saw this on a article in the Dallas Morning News..

Quote:
Mincey had a sack in each of the Cowboys’ two playoff games. And now ProFootballFocus. com has Mincey graded out as the top 4-3 defensive end in the playoffs.

Mincey excelled at rushing the quarterback in the playoffs, according to PFF. His pass-rush was graded out at +5.2 in the playoffs in 89 snaps. His overall grade by PFF in the playoffs was +6.7, which was 1.3 higher than the next closest 4-3 defensive end in Carolina’s Charles Johnson.

Cowboys veteran Anthony Spencer finished third overall in the playoffs among 4-3 defensive ends, according to PFF, with a +3.6 grade.


We are looking for pass rushers and we have two of the four best in the playoffs, already on the team.
Hawk

The only thing that worries me, is what it would cost to keep him.
BevoMav

Hawk wrote:
The only thing that worries me, is what it would cost to keep him.


I was just doing some thinking of the teams "priority" needs.

Dez and Murray are at the top of my list, but Murray is going to have to take a home town discount. No way the team is going to get in cap hell, see Marion Barber's deal, with Murry.

The defense is where it gets tricky.

How much will McClain cost?
What about Lee?
Jerry says Clairborne will come back for this 5th season.
What to do with the safties? I think Church is a keeper but they need to upgrade from Wilcox.
I might consider another Olineman if a good one is available with the first pick.
Scandrick is a keeper. He didn't allow a passing td all year.
Carr came on and actually had a pretty good season.
Nightrider

Cowboys should be able to sign all thrie RDFs without much trouble.

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