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Cowboys VS. Denver




WHERE: Jerry's World aka AT&T Stadium
TIME: 3:25 CST
TV: CBS
OPENING LINE: Denver (-6)

INJURY REPORT: TBA


BY THE NUMBERS:

DENVER [4-0]:
Pass 374.4ypg
Run 112.0ypg
vs Pass 327.0ypg
vs Run 43.1ypg


DALLAS [2-2]:
Pass - 242.7
Run - 105.7
vs Pass - 274.7
vs Run - 66.3



TIDBITS:


Peyton Manning treads on historic ground


Quote:
•Manning's 16 touchdown passes broke the record of 14 through the first four games of the season that had been co-held by Sammy Baugh, Don Meredith and Kurt Warner. Via ESPN Stats Info.
•Manning has tied the NFL record for most touchdowns to start a season without throwing an interception. The only other quarterback to do that, via ESPN Stats Info, was Milt Plum with the 1960 Browns. Plum, it should be noted, needed 10 games to reach that mark.
•Manning, as you know, has 16 passing touchdowns. No other team has more than 15 total touchdowns this season.


Johnston on clock management and hinting at 2-3


Quote:
Message delivered by Jason Garrett at halftime to Tony Siragusa: With the Cowboys up 21-13, Garrett told the Fox sideline analyst how important it was for the Cowboys, who had allowed the Chargers a late first half field goal, to come out really, really really strong in the second half. Siragusa mentioned how emphatic Garrett had been.

The Chargers won the second half: 17-0.




Quote:
Clarence Hill ‏@clarencehilljr 1h
monte kiffin did acknowledge officially that scandrick has replaced claiborne as the starter at right cb..but still goes inside in nickel d


ummmm.....yeah, that's not good.


Quote:
Tim MacMahon ‏@espn_macmahon 17m
Monte Kiffin on facing Peyton Manning a week after Philip Rivers torched the Dallas D for 401 yards: "That’s not good."



Quote:
Tim MacMahon ‏@espn_macmahon 1h
Strange stat: Cowboys are 1-6 when Dez Bryant has multiple TD catches.




Well, Dallas has a big week ahead of them against arguably the best team in the league and without question the hottest QB.

Should be fun. Have at it.
Desperado

Well we are playing Adams team this week. But guess what, we will be the best football Team Denver has faced so far.

I know the injuries are starting to mount up, but I say we win this one, and Adam will show up just to tell us the Cowboys suck and got lucky.
Nightrider

We've got these weapons (like Dunbar) and we DON'T USE THEM.  The coaching staff didn't have to tell me how explosive Dunbar was as a change-of-pace back, or as a receiver out of the backfield, or on screens, etc.  I saw that with my own eyes in preseason.  And it would be one thing if he didn't get to play MUCH, or was only getting in for a few snaps a game.  But here's the problem:  HE DOESN'T GET INTO THE GAME............AT ALL.

The first time we saw Dunbar in the lineup was against Kansas City (Week 2), and he was only in for 3 plays, and it was only because Demarco Murray broke his helmet in the middle of a drive.  When was the next time we saw Dunbar?  I THINK he played like one snap against San Diego, but didn't get a touch.

You've got a weapon standing on the sideline doing nothing.  I understand being cautious with a kid who's shown a tendency to fumble, but if you have a weapon, you have to USE it.

Same with our multiple TEs.  We've got 5 TEs on the roster, but we only really use one.  Escobar has, what, 3 catches this year?  And Jungle Jimmy Hanna has 4?  Another example of how we have weapons that we won't even put into the lineup.  And we didn't even see Cole Beasley and Dwayne Harris being used much until recently.

If I were on this coaching staff, I'd constantly be rolling different personnel packages into and out of the game, mixing up formations, using motion, and just generally not allowing defenses to know from one play to the next what was coming.  We did a pretty good job of that during the preseason, but now, nothing.  It has to change.  These offensive coaches better be pulling everything in the playbook out this week.


The media hypes Dez Bryant all the time what BS, Tony Romo knows that. Somebody really needs to step up and get things going. Like Desperado, I believe this Cowboys team can beat Denver, they just need to come out with attitude and getter done.
BevoMav

OK, Denver is undefeated, and Dallas is 2-2.

So what that Peyton has thrown has thrown 16 td passes to Romo's 8.

Forget Denver is averaging over 44 points a game, and Dallas is hovering around 26.

Stand up to the fact that Dallas defense is allowing 21 points a game. That smokes Denver's horrible 22 points a game.

Forget the NFC East is 1-7 against the NFC West.

On paper the two teams look even. Based on Dallas being at home and

looking at all the above stats, I have to favor the Cowboys by a score of 34-28

Stats don't lie   cheers
1adam12

Despairado, the Cowboys are MY team.  I didn't show up to let you all know that you were wrong about the Chargers, and I hope we can split...by finding a way to beat the Broncos.  The Broncos would have to have a really bad week, simultaneous with our best game:  not likely.

I think you know (but just won't admit it to yourself) that the Cowboys are WAY worse than the Broncos.  I understand that every team has a chance this week, including ours, it would just be unlikely to win.

These games really don't mean enough for the Cowboys to risk further injury.  Even if we won, it would be really unfortunate for us to forget about the games that count----December and January's games!

Again, we are in a very weak division, but someone is going to get strong, and finish well.  This game is NOT as big as you are thinking...win or lose.  If we stay close, and win the final 4 regular season games, it is POSSIBLE that our team will have a bit more spirit than we've seen in the past decade.

So, if we imagine the Cowboys at 6-6 (not too hard to achieve, even with a loss this week...a bit easier with a win), enter December pretty fresh, win out.  That is our best possible scenario.  This team just isn't strong enough to start winning now, and carry through the playoffs; you are thinking like a child to believe we are somehow that good.  The way I see it, 6-6 is realistic, and puts us within a game of first place in our division.  If we have the footBALLS to finish at 10-6, we take the division, and go into the playoffs swinging.  We should not be playing for a bye in the first round, we should be playing for a healthy team in the first round!
Desperado

I understand your way of thinking, but really don't care for it. I come here to talk Cowboys with a few like fans. If we, and I say we are wrong about our predictions, its not all that important to me.

It seems very important to you to be right, I do understand your end scenario has us winning. But doesn't mean I have to buy into it for one second.

But be assured, I won't insult you by doing something by spelling your name weird. Now you have managed to highjack a thread about the Cowboys Bronco game and try and turn it into something personal.

I'm not sure with all your knowledge why you couldn't explain why the Cowboys or Denver would win this game. Now that might have been interesting albino
1adam12

You seem very angry.  You picked the fight with me, because I was right about some things?!  Well, guess what?  I do like being right.  It must suck to just have wishes of grandeur, without being able to firmly except reality.

The Cowboys aren't the best team.  By saying that, it doesn't some how give you the right to say that I am not a good fan, or that I have a secret liking for some other team.

I'm glad we can agree that we would like it if the Cowboys win tomorrow.
Nightrider

After everything I've read Cowboys shouldn't even play this game. JJ should just have a rock concert today instead.

Manning is an old man in football terms, Cowboys need to remind him today, that its time for him to retire.

Lets get back to hyping the Patriots, I'm already sick of Denver.
zigomanis18

A little bit of History. In 2006 I believe the Colts with Manning cam into Dallas at 9-0 and the Cowboys beat them. The Colts won the SB that year.

In 2009, the Saints were 13-0 I Believe? The Cowboys walked into NO and beat them. So, the Cowboys have shown to be able to rise up and beat supposedly unbeaten better teams.

However with that said, Bothe those teams were stronger than this team.
I Think the Boys have a chance if they jump out quickly and create turnovers early.

I actually think the Boys keep in close early, but in the end the Broncos passing game does us in...  41-28.
1adam12

I'm glad you guys aren't all saying, "this is our year, and we can beat any team" as per usual.  We have a good chance today, because we aren't supposed to win.  Keep in mind, there is a reason why we aren't supposed to win!

I'm glad that we all want them to win, and have a clear enough head to understand that the Broncos are the better team.

Better teams lose to others every single week!  This one will not 'upset' us.

Cowboys 21
Broncos  27

Too little, too late, but we make a game of it.
Hawk

Cowboys will win this game....and if they don't I'll just go down to the Bar here in Belize and talk about the weather.

If they win which I think they can....then I'll come here and talk about Adam...lmao....how are those pork stocks doing this year.
Hawk

zigomanis18 wrote:
A little bit of History. In 2006 I believe the Colts with Manning cam into Dallas at 9-0 and the Cowboys beat them. The Colts won the SB that year.

In 2009, the Saints were 13-0 I Believe? The Cowboys walked into NO and beat them. So, the Cowboys have shown to be able to rise up and beat supposedly unbeaten better teams.

However with that said, Bothe those teams were stronger than this team.
I Think the Boys have a chance if they jump out quickly and create turnovers early.

I actually think the Boys keep in close early, but in the end the Broncos passing game does us in...  41-28.



Sorry old friend all BS....except the fact the Cowboys did win those games
1adam12

Whoa!  Win or lose, Romo just played his best quarter of football!  Unbelievable that he got away with all that stuff!
zigomanis18

What a friggin TOUGH Loss!

You know, everyone will blame Romo for his ONE interception near the end.
But the reality is, Romo had a GREAT game and put up 48 points against the best team in the league. 506 yards..Cmon! THe Cowboys shot themselves in the foot so many times with timely stupid penalties.

For instance, We were up 14-7  and had first and goal at the 2 yard line. Then a STUPID off sides puts the ball back at the 7 yard line. So we get a field goal instead of a TD.
1adam12

Scratch that, he played his best game.  It was a bad pass at the end, but we had a chance.

I hope the Cowboys can show up next week, because they just played their hearts out!  Terrible ending to an otherwise excellent game.

I wish he hadn't punched the Pepsi machine.
zigomanis18

1adam12 wrote:
Scratch that, he played his best game.  It was a bad pass at the end, but we had a chance.

I hope the Cowboys can show up next week, because they just played their hearts out!  Terrible ending to an otherwise excellent game.

I wish he hadn't punched the Pepsi machine.



But you know that all any of the critics will say is" Romo Choked again" I see if all over Facebook already. Not Fair.
1adam12

Matt Blair (ex-Viking) just wrote, "Hey Adam, Manning > Romo!"  34 likes so far.

This is perfect for the Cowboys haters.  They love to see them get close and lose.  I literally never make fun of anyone's team (following a loss)...I don't think I ever have.

The next 2 games are more important than the last 2, and since we didn't split (which I was afraid of), it will hurt if we don't win both.

I worry about Romo, with the ball, late in the game.  I was always excited with Aikman and Staubach.  We played against a beat up secondary, and Romo put some passes in there well enough that it wouldn't matter whom was covering our guys... he just scares me at the end.  I hope Romo and I can shake this!
zigomanis18

1adam12 wrote:
Matt Blair (ex-Viking) just wrote, "Hey Adam, Manning > Romo!"  34 likes so far.

This is perfect for the Cowboys haters.  They love to see them get close and lose.  I literally never make fun of anyone's team (following a loss)...I don't think I ever have.

The next 2 games are more important than the last 2, and since we didn't split (which I was afraid of), it will hurt if we don't win both.

I worry about Romo, with the ball, late in the game.  I was always excited with Aikman and Staubach.  We played against a beat up secondary, and Romo put some passes in there well enough that it wouldn't matter whom was covering our guys... he just scares me at the end.  I hope Romo and I can shake this!



I think it is way too late in his career to shake it.
Hawk

Well....Adam it all came clear to me what was going to happen when the ball was fumbled. That sure as hell wasn't Romo's fault, but at that point even I could have written the script.

I made the chicken run, and went out to the bar with some friends. Listened to some oldies and had some good conversation about the weather.
1adam12

I can't see how you could possibly mean Dez's fumble, in I think the 2nd quarter.  You must not want to call the Romo pass an interception...   It was a clear case of a bad throw.  Not only did he throw it into a blind spot (ref), he threw into a position where it was easy to jump the throw.  He got away with one earlier in the 3rd, just like it...and it went for a good gain.

Romo's (and any Cowboys') best passing game had to be spoiled with a late interception.  Sickening.

As I stated before, if we lost every AFC game, and can find a way to recover, we'll be in better shape than the teams that are tied with us.  Still likely that we win the division, as long as we don't over-play these less meaningful games...they start getting real meaningful soon, if the Cowboys don't win against the Redskins!
Hawk

1adam12 wrote:
I can't see how you could possibly mean Dez's fumble, in I think the 2nd quarter.  You must not want to call the Romo pass an interception...   It was a clear case of a bad throw.  Not only did he throw it into a blind spot (ref), he threw into a position where it was easy to jump the throw.  He got away with one earlier in the 3rd, just like it...and it went for a good gain.

Romo's (and any Cowboys') best passing game had to be spoiled with a late interception.  Sickening.

As I stated before, if we lost every AFC game, and can find a way to recover, we'll be in better shape than the teams that are tied with us.  Still likely that we win the division, as long as we don't over-play these less meaningful games...they start getting real meaningful soon, if the Cowboys don't win against the Redskins!


This is whats clear...pull your head out, a penalty when we are going in for score....not Romo's fault....a fumble when we are moving the ball real well....not Romo's fault.....Tyron Smith being pushed into Romo stepping on his foot causing an errant throw and int....still not Romo's fault.....Genius
1adam12

That pass would not have been good.  There were defenders coming from both sides.  He got away with it earlier in the game.  It was a bad choice of target.

Either way, Romo's best career game (any Cowboys') resulted in a loss;  and whats worse, it ended in an interception.  Just what we don't need for an already scared (and scarred) quarterback.

While this game didn't mean a whole bunch, it is one that became an instant classic.  I don't like classics that show us in that light.  Romo will get credit for the loss, whether you point out other things, because Romo needed his team to get about 45 yards, but instead they turned the ball over---- while Romo was playing the quarterback position.

White jersey curse?  I don't think so.
1adam12

That pass would not have been good.  There were defenders coming from both sides.  He got away with it earlier in the game.  It was a bad choice of target.

Either way, Romo's best career game (any Cowboys') resulted in a loss;  and whats worse, it ended in an interception.  Just what we don't need for an already scared (and scarred) quarterback.

While this game didn't mean a whole bunch, it is one that became an instant classic.  I don't like classics that show us in that light.  Romo will get credit for the loss, whether you point out other things, because Romo needed his team to get about 45 yards, but instead they turned the ball over---- while Romo was playing the quarterback position.

White jersey curse?  I don't think so.

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