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Hawk

Cowboys Draft

Okay things are heating up about who we should take and shouldn't take. Lets put all our draft thoughts here, I see them popping up in other threads.

We all agree we need some defensive help! As I said previously, TEs and DTs graded as #1 picks will all be gone when we draft. That's the way I see it right now, who we take that's the thing?

Trading back for an extra pick....hell do we need it, we still have a pick left over from 2009, bet you didn't know that lol. Plus we have some comp picks. The problem with the extra picks, you can't trade them for anything. So probably getting an extra 3rd might be worth trading back for.

Anyway lets hear what you guys think
Desperado

Rumors have the Cowboys interested in Matt Hall OT from OLE Miss.

6'9" over 300, could be the strongest guy in the draft. Not sure he will be invited to the combine, but that would actually be good for us.
BluenSilver4evr

RD1 - 16th/17th waiting on coin flip
RD2 - 48
RD3 - 81
RD4 - 144
RD5 - 176
RD6 - None
RD7 - A Bunch. Ours, plus Chiefs and Chargers. Plus up to 4 Comp Pick
Desperado

Right now I like Clinton Dix

Here's the early 1st round predictions for us and everybody.


http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/mock-draft

One person projects a Clinton-Dix (FS) other projects Ealy (DE)

http://www.draftcountdown.com/sub/Mock-Draft-B.php

Projects Timmy Jernigan (DT) from FSU

http://fansided.com/2013/12/30/20...rst-round-projections-playoff/18/

Same

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl...mock-draft-no-191857938--nfl.html

Another for Clinton-Dix

http://walterfootball.com/draft2014_1.php

Louis Nix NT (ND)

I also see Kony Ealy on some mocks, he won't still be around. I also don't see Nix available either, or Jernigan. But that's why they call it mock
Hawk

I also like the Ha Ha Dix pick, Kiffin is always saying his defense needs two good safety's to function right. Give the man what he wants.

Bass and Crawford will be back, so we do have some strength to build on. Grab the DL in the 2nd and 3rd, works for me.
LoneStar

This is the best mock I've seen so far, it includes an extra 3rd as a trade down.

1. Trent Murphy, DE, Stanford
2. Aaron Donald, DT, Pitt
3. Telvin Smith, OLB, Florida State
3. Jackson Jeffcoat, DE, Texas
4. Dominque Easley, DT, Florida
5. Josh Stewart, WR, Oklahoma State
6. Trey Millard, FB, Oklahoma
7. Jimmy Garoppolo, QB, Eastern Illinois
7. Chris Whaley, DT, Texas
Hawk

LoneStar wrote:
This is the best mock I've seen so far, it includes an extra 3rd as a trade down.

1. Trent Murphy, DE, Stanford
2. Aaron Donald, DT, Pitt
3. Telvin Smith, OLB, Florida State
3. Jackson Jeffcoat, DE, Texas
4. Dominque Easley, DT, Florida
5. Josh Stewart, WR, Oklahoma State
6. Trey Millard, FB, Oklahoma
7. Jimmy Garoppolo, QB, Eastern Illinois
7. Chris Whaley, DT, Texas


Would love this draft, but Murphy is one of the top rated TEs in the nation. No way do we move back and get this guy, he'll be gone before we even pick. Plus somewhere in there we should get an OL guy. Where is the Safety we need drunken
El Kabong

LoneStar wrote:
This is the best mock I've seen so far, it includes an extra 3rd as a trade down.

1. Trent Murphy, DE, Stanford
2. Aaron Donald, DT, Pitt
3. Telvin Smith, OLB, Florida State
3. Jackson Jeffcoat, DE, Texas
4. Dominque Easley, DT, Florida
5. Josh Stewart, WR, Oklahoma State
6. Trey Millard, FB, Oklahoma
7. Jimmy Garoppolo, QB, Eastern Illinois
7. Chris Whaley, DT, Texas


Put Dix in Murphy's place, and I think this would be a good draft. The FB we picked up last season did a good job, even though he fumbled at a critical time. I"d drop the FB here and grab an OL guy. We can always get a FB on the cheap in FA, if we don't like the one we have.

Interesting, to QBs from the same small University, that would be a first.
BluenSilver4evr

Anybody notice we don't have a round 6 pick?
Hawk

El Kabong

Sooner or later we have to talk QB, Orton proved he's not the answer!
beempty

In my opinion, our needs are (in this order):

DT
DE
S
LB
OL

The order we take them in should depend on which position is deepest. It seems to me like DL/DE are more prevalent in this class, so maybe it would be best to focus on an elite safety first if possible.

If Dix falls to us and there are still DL/DE available that we like (which seems likely), we should probably snag him. If he doesn't fall to us, then maybe the best available difference maker at DT/DE would be better, then focus on a safety in the mid rounds.

If we get a solid linebacker in the mid rounds and at least one solid OL, I would call it a good draft.
Hawk

BluenSilver4evr wrote:
Anybody notice we don't have a round 6 pick?


We are going to have a number of comp picks. My guess we'll get a 6th for Jenkins from the Raiders.
Hawk

beempty wrote:
In my opinion, our needs are (in this order):

DT
DE
S
LB
OL

The order we take them in should depend on which position is deepest. It seems to me like DL/DE are more prevalent in this class, so maybe it would be best to focus on an elite safety first if possible.

If Dix falls to us and there are still DL/DE available that we like (which seems likely), we should probably snag him. If he doesn't fall to us, then maybe the best available difference maker at DT/DE would be better, then focus on a safety in the mid rounds.

If we get a solid linebacker in the mid rounds and at least one solid OL, I would call it a good draft.


I have no problem with what you are saying, I could live with that lineup if you put names to them. Biggest problem I see with your list is DT, who will still be around at 16/17? I know we could luck out later, but get Kiffin his safety in the 1st round, and lets roll from there!
Nightrider

Aaron Donald is the name everybody has been mentioning. I think the guy is to small to be an every down player in the NFL.
Desperado

Nightrider wrote:
Aaron Donald is the name everybody has been mentioning. I think the guy is to small to be an every down player in the NFL.


I read the scouting report on this guy, 6' 285 lbs, he's not exactly a big guy for the position. But he's supposed to be a Randle type guy with lots of quickness. I say El Paso unless we can move back and still get him.
Hawk

The guy climbed the ladder, because he had a good Senior Bowl game. The media is trying to sell him to the Cowboys as a Marinelli type player. What ever the hell that means?

At best he'd be a gamble, lets draft a starter we already have enough gambles!
BluenSilver4evr

Hawk wrote:
I also like the Ha Ha Dix pick, Kiffin is always saying his defense needs two good safety's to function right. Give the man what he wants.

Bass and Crawford will be back, so we do have some strength to build on. Grab the DL in the 2nd and 3rd, works for me.


Okay you have drafted Wilcox, and have Matt Johnson standing by, do you just cut these guys? Or are they worth giving a chance, forget drafting a safety we have plenty of them already!
Hawk

Coin flip tomorrow,,,,whoopy doo
Hawk

BluenSilver4evr wrote:
Hawk wrote:
I also like the Ha Ha Dix pick, Kiffin is always saying his defense needs two good safety's to function right. Give the man what he wants.

Bass and Crawford will be back, so we do have some strength to build on. Grab the DL in the 2nd and 3rd, works for me.


Okay you have drafted Wilcox, and have Matt Johnson standing by, do you just cut these guys? Or are they worth giving a chance, forget drafting a safety we have plenty of them already!


Good point....lmao like Johnson has ever even been on the field
Hawk

Hawk wrote:
Coin flip tomorrow,,,,whoopy doo


We won the coin flip, we'll be picking #16....time for Ha Ha, or trade down and get an extra pick.
El Kabong

Ah we finally won something, lol. I know I'm not interested in Aaron he's to small to last in the everyday grind of the NFL.

I like the idea of getting an extra pick late 3rd or early 4th somebody who has a chance to start.
Nightrider

WOW! winner winner chicken dinner cheers
Hawk

It’s simple: The Cowboys need a signal caller behind Tony Romo.

And preferably someone who can handle the keys when Romo moves on. The quarterback will have the benefit of learning from a top 10 quarterback in the tail end of his prime, while developing his own skill set.

The Cowboys need a quarterback of the future, who can sit and learn from Romo for a few years, who has the potential to become successful as a starter while serving as the second quarterback and called upon when needed.

And with that said, the Cowboys select quarterback AJ McCarron in the second round.
El Kabong

It's the most wonderful time of the year!

The NFL combine is upon us, and while draft season has been in full swing for some time, the combine begins the big stretch of nonstop draft talk between now and May. For all NFL fans, this time of the year abounds with hope. For fans whose teams didn't make the playoffs, the draft represents their Super Bowl—the time to turn it all around, this time.

Coverage of the combine starts Saturday on NFL Network and NFL.com
BevoMav

I like Ha Ha from Alabama as well but one guy that intrigues me is Pitt DT Aaron Donald. He's undersized at 6' - 288 lbs.. About Warren Sapp size, and like Sapp the kid is fast and has a non stop motor.

I haven't gotten far enough into the draft to start with the later rounds, but the key with the Cowboys is to look at who they bring in..

OH< the Mock Draft posted had Jackson Jeffcoat drafted in the third round. He's rated late one or two..No way he's there in the third..
BluenSilver4evr

BevoMav wrote:
I like Ha Ha from Alabama as well but one guy that intrigues me is Pitt DT Aaron Donald. He's undersized at 6' - 288 lbs.. About Warren Sapp size, and like Sapp the kid is fast and has a non stop motor.

I haven't gotten far enough into the draft to start with the later rounds, but the key with the Cowboys is to look at who they bring in..

OH< the Mock Draft posted had Jackson Jeffcoat drafted in the third round. He's rated late one or two..No way he's there in the third..


There has been a lot of conversation in earlier posts about Donald. Sorry he's not 1st round material IMO. Jeffcoat is nothing better than a 3rd round pick so if he's gone before that so be it.

Cowboys will trade back simply because the players they really want will be gone. But there are good players who will be left its a good draft class. I don't know about Ha Ha, maybe Kiffin and Marinelli will go with Wilcox and Johnson and of course Church. Things will be more interesting after the combine.

Stay tuned, things will be heating up flower
LoneStar

Donald is way to small, if you don't get him some help with big guys he won't do anything. We need a real play maker at that position. Bring in Bass or Crawford, they can at least clog the lanes.

We need healthy and the Cowboys can rock
BevoMav

BluenSilver4evr wrote:
BevoMav wrote:
I like Ha Ha from Alabama as well but one guy that intrigues me is Pitt DT Aaron Donald. He's undersized at 6' - 288 lbs.. About Warren Sapp size, and like Sapp the kid is fast and has a non stop motor.

I haven't gotten far enough into the draft to start with the later rounds, but the key with the Cowboys is to look at who they bring in..

OH< the Mock Draft posted had Jackson Jeffcoat drafted in the third round. He's rated late one or two..No way he's there in the third..


There has been a lot of conversation in earlier posts about Donald. Sorry he's not 1st round material IMO. Jeffcoat is nothing better than a 3rd round pick so if he's gone before that so be it.

Cowboys will trade back simply because the players they really want will be gone. But there are good players who will be left its a good draft class. I don't know about Ha Ha, maybe Kiffin and Marinelli will go with Wilcox and Johnson and of course Church. Things will be more interesting after the combine.

Stay tuned, things will be heating up flower


CBS Sports has Jeffcoat the 50th rated player in the draft, Kiper has him as a late first round pick, Rant sports has him early second and NFL.Com also has him as a second round pick.

I think he is too small to play DE and is better suited as a OLB in a 3-4. He's only 245 pounds.
Hawk

Somebody is drunk if they have Jeffcoat at #50. I love Jeffcoat the ASU player, but not his son who he didn't send to ASU.

He'll never be a Cowboy....but that's life
Hawk

Jeffcoat's playmaking ability is limited by his lack of burst off the line of scrimmage. He does not have the explosive first step needed to blow by blockers off the line.

As a result, Jeffcoat does not blow up many plays in the backfield unless he is unblocked off the line of scrimmage or the play is slow to develop. He needs to become more technically sound, especially as a pass-rusher, to offset his subpar explosiveness.



Rushing the Passer

Jeffcoat has not become an elite pass-rusher at the collegiate level—he has an average of .5 sack per game for his collegiate career (13.5 sacks in 27 games). To become an impact pass-rusher at the next level, his game must develop significantly.

There are some things he does well as an edge rusher. He is good at dipping his shoulder to get leverage against a left tackle, and he has the speed to bring quick pressure if he establishes an angle to the quarterback.

Many of Jeffcoat's sacks have come as the result of being unblocked by the offensive line or by coming in after pressure has already come from the opposite side. He has not shown that he can consistently break free from blockers.

Jeffcoat uses his hands actively but does not win with them often. He has a solid rip move, but his pass-rush moves are mostly unrefined and ineffective.

To be an effective pass-rusher at the next level, Jeffcoat must become stronger with his hands and expand his arsenal of pass-rush moves.

Although Jeffcoat is not a great speed rusher, he still has a tendency to most often try to rush around the offensive tackle. He occasionally rushes inside from the 3-technique spot, but does not have the outside-inside moves in his arsenal to come across the face of a blocker and get a lane to the backfield.

Jeffcoat is a solid but not overpowering bull-rusher. He does a good job of getting his hands into the pads of an offensive lineman and pushing them back to bring pressure toward the quarterback.

But like his edge rush, Jeffcoat's bull-rush is often limited just to pressure. He does not exhibit the power to drive offensive linemen over and break free to the quarterback.



Defending the Run

At this point in his development, Jeffcoat is much more refined as a run defender than he is as a pass-rusher.

Jeffcoat does a good job of setting the edge and holding his gap to force run plays inside or outside. While he may not overpower many blockers and drive them back into runners, he does a good job of getting physical with his opponent and holding his ground at the line of scrimmage.

Jeffcoat has good gap discipline, and his instincts for playing option runs and fakes in the backfield have steadily improved. He does not typically get exposed by being fooled or abandoning his assignment.

He is good at moving along the line of scrimmage and getting inside to make run stops in the middle of the field. He can find lanes up the middle to the backfield or track plays downfield into the middle from the edge.

Tackling is one of Jeffcoat's strengths. He is a sound tackler who does a very good job wrapping up his opponent and driving him to the ground without allowing the ball-carrier to drive forward for extra yardage.

Jeffcoat is a good open-field runner with a strong motor, and he combines those traits with his tackling ability to make plays downfield. He has the ability to trail plays well downfield and track down ball-carriers for tackles from behind, like he did on the following 20-yard run after catch by Oklahoma State running back Josh Stewart last season.

I think I'd pass on this guy especially if he's rated #50
Nightrider

I think all of us would like another guy named Jeffcoat playing for Dallas. But maybe Mark Cuban could use this guy. I know Bevo desperately wants somebody from Texas on the team. But Jeffcoat doesn't really fit what the Cowboys need at the moment.

How the hell does he get top 50, nobody but us ever even heard of this guy?
Hawk

In an article on Wednesday, Brandt predicted UCLA Guard Xavier Su’a-Filo will become the NFL Combine’s breakout star. The event is being held this weekend and early next week at Lucas Oil Stadium in Indianapolis, Indiana. Over 300 of college football top athletes will all be competing for rankings and ultimate selection in the NFL Draft happening in May. Out of that number, there are always a few that raise to the top.

Here’s what Brandt had to say about the California prospect by way of Utah:


“Su’a-Filo has an interesting backstory, having served a two-year Mormon mission that split up his college career. He started 13 games at left tackle for the Bruins as a freshman in 2009 (becoming the first UCLA player ever to start from Day 1), was gone for the next two years on the mission in Florida and Alabama, then returned to become UCLA’s full-time starter at left guard. He gave up his final year of college eligibility to enter the draft…Right now, most teams have assigned him a second-day grade, but he’ll move up. And the team that drafts him will have a Day 1 starter at guard.”

Here’s what Su’a-Filo told Chase Goodbread of College 24/7  about receiving such high praise from a football legend:


“It’s flattering. I really appreciate it. I just really found out when he talked to me (Thursday). It just gives me more motivation to do what I planned on doing here at the combine. People getting to know me, performing well, putting up good numbers and showing teams who I am and what I can bring to the table.”

Brandt has been right about these things before. Last year, he predicted Florida State quarterback E.J. Manuel and Tennessee wide receiver Cordarrelle Patterson would excel at the combine. Both players had second round grades coming into the event. Manuel was selected by the Buffalo Bills with the 16th overall pick. The Minnesota Vikings made Patterson the 29th overall pick in the first round. He rewarded them by making the Pro Bowl in his rookie season.

The measurables on Su’a-Filo are what you’d expect from a highly-ranked draft prospect at guard. He’s 6’3, 305 lbs. CBSSports NFL Draft Analyst Rob Rang ranks Su’a-Filo as the 32nd best overall player available in this year’s draft. Here’s his analysis of the UCLA lineman:


“Despite playing out of position at left tackle due to injuries to teammates, Su’a-Filo was voted the top offensive lineman in the Pac-12 by those who’d know — the conference’s defensive linemen. Quick, powerful and balanced, he’s equally effective driving defenders off the ball in the running game or settling in pass protection.”

Rang also thinks Su’a-Filo’s one weakness is his tendency to lose leverage on contact.

A member of the 2013 All-Pac 12 First Team, Su’a-Filo is a high character guy and a former team captain, which falls directly in-line with what Cowboys head coach Jason Garrett looks for in his players. On top of that, he fills a major need for Dallas.

Currently starting at guard next season, the Cowboys have veterans Mackenzie Bernardeau and Ronald Leary atop the depth chart. “Bernie” struggled in a starting role last year filling in for injured All-Pro guard Brian Waters. Leary play fairly well as a starter but has a degenerative knee condition that is expected to limit his career.  With the 37-year old Waters unlikely to return, Dallas desperately needs to inject some talent and youth within the interior of their line. And with Cowboys starting quarterback Tony Romo coming off his second back surgery in a year, his protection should be paramount.

The Cowboys drafted center Travis Frederick in the first round last season. And that was an unqualified success. Could they look once again to their offensive line with their top pick? Cowboys executive vice president Stephen Jones stated earlier this week that Dallas will not draft for need, but talent and for those who fit within their system. He all but ruled out taking a defensive tackle in the first round. (possible smokescreen alert)  Which leaves the door potentially open for a safety, defensive end or a guard to be taken number one.

If Dallas was to pursue Su’a-Filo, I believed they would be best served to trade down in the first round before selecting him. As drafting him #16 overall seems a bit high. At least, it does right now. If Brandt’s prediction comes true, it could be exactly the right spot
BluenSilver4evr

I'm thinking if we don't draft Ha Ha, one of these is our guy with a trade down.

Louisville safety Calvin Pryor, Missouri defensive end Kony Ealy and Minnesota defensive tackle Ra’Shede Hageman.
Hawk

BluenSilver4evr wrote:
I'm thinking if we don't draft Ha Ha, one of these is our guy with a trade down.

Louisville safety Calvin Pryor, Missouri defensive end Kony Ealy and Minnesota defensive tackle Ra’Shede Hageman.


I like all these prospects with a trade involved, but Pryor has been rated as high as #22, which doesn't give us a lot of trade space if we want him.

I wanted a safety but now I'm more back today wanting a DT, makes more sense to me since we are still carrying 4 Safety's at the moment.
BevoMav

Hawk wrote:
BluenSilver4evr wrote:
I'm thinking if we don't draft Ha Ha, one of these is our guy with a trade down.

Louisville safety Calvin Pryor, Missouri defensive end Kony Ealy and Minnesota defensive tackle Ra’Shede Hageman.


I like all these prospects with a trade involved, but Pryor has been rated as high as #22, which doesn't give us a lot of trade space if we want him.

I wanted a safety but now I'm more back today wanting a DT, makes more sense to me since we are still carrying 4 Safety's at the moment.


Pick the best pass rusher in the draft with the first pick..Then a safety in second..Pass rushers in third and best available with the fourth.

So it is written......
Desperado

Lets for sure fix the worst defense in the NFL, end of story
Hawk

Desperado wrote:
Lets for sure fix the worst defense in the NFL, end of story


Amen
BevoMav

Hawk wrote:
Desperado wrote:
Lets for sure fix the worst defense in the NFL, end of story


Amen


Uh, that's what I said bucko.  cheers
Hawk

What's are biggest need now, WRer, OL, DL....Cowboys starting to look like Swiss cheese.

But maybe some of these young guys will step up and surprise everybody. Only the coaches know what their potential is.
LoneStar

The Dallas Cowboys had a player they viewed as a 1-technique defensive tackle sitting there for them last year in the first round. But they decided to pass. Sharrif Floyd was scooped up by Minnesota after the Cowboys traded back.

Dallas could have the opportunity to draft another 1-technique DT in this year’s draft and several experts are projecting that the Cowboys will pull the trigger.

While Pitt 3-technique defensive tackle Aaron Donald has been the popular Cowboys projection over the last three months, Florida State’s Timmy Jernigan is gaining momentum. The Cowboys agreed to terms with free agent 3-technique Henry Melton Tuesday night, so pairing him with Jernigan, a 1-technique, doesn’t seem like the worst idea.

Is this the year Hawk gets his guy lol
Hawk

LoneStar wrote:
The Dallas Cowboys had a player they viewed as a 1-technique defensive tackle sitting there for them last year in the first round. But they decided to pass. Sharrif Floyd was scooped up by Minnesota after the Cowboys traded back.

Dallas could have the opportunity to draft another 1-technique DT in this year’s draft and several experts are projecting that the Cowboys will pull the trigger.

While Pitt 3-technique defensive tackle Aaron Donald has been the popular Cowboys projection over the last three months, Florida State’s Timmy Jernigan is gaining momentum. The Cowboys agreed to terms with free agent 3-technique Henry Melton Tuesday night, so pairing him with Jernigan, a 1-technique, doesn’t seem like the worst idea.

Is this the year Hawk gets his guy lol


Donald is a half pint Jernigan is a full pint. Now that we have Melton and Bass at the 3 tech, we need Jernigan at the 1 tech. Now that's a real start to something good.

But I still want Ha Ha at safety 1st round, and Jernigan 2nd round, then I'll be happy. Superbowl Baby lol
BluenSilver4evr

Hawk if we get both those guys, I'd say hell ya, sorry I don't see that happening.
Hawk

BluenSilver4evr wrote:
Hawk if we get both those guys, I'd say hell ya, sorry I don't see that happening.


Dix will probably be gone at 16, but we could move back and still get Pryor and move up in the second and get Jernigan. A lot  of people want Barr, but I think that would be a wasted pick.
BevoMav

The Cowboys need an edge rusher. Crawford is healthy and can help but what are they going to do with their defensive ends?
LoneStar

BevoMav wrote:
The Cowboys need an edge rusher. Crawford is healthy and can help but what are they going to do with their defensive ends?


Selvie had more sacks than Ware last year. I'm sure we will be drafting a DE that's a must.
BevoMav

LoneStar wrote:
BevoMav wrote:
The Cowboys need an edge rusher. Crawford is healthy and can help but what are they going to do with their defensive ends?


Selvie had more sacks than Ware last year. I'm sure we will be drafting a DE that's a must.


Still a head scratchier why Ware was in such demand?
Hawk

Its to early for me to get on my high Horse. But the Cowboys have a mess of strong young guys on that D-line.

We already know we have a good offense and a good draft this year will take us a long ways. When I see players like Bass, Crawford and Selvie, and the FA's we picked up....I get real hope. When I see the coaching staff we have, that adds to the hope.

Now we need to get through training camp and preseason and kick some a$$.
Nightrider

No more Hamburger flippers this year. that's my biggest hope!
Desperado

Everybody is all excited this year because we have 11 picks, we had 12 in 2009. We used 11 of those at the time, not one of those guys is still on the team.

I realize we didn't have a #1 pick that year, but we whiffed on all the other picks. At best the draft will still be a guessing game.
LoneStar

Arizona State defensive tackle Davon Coleman is scheduled for a private workout. "My first scheduled workout is with the (Dallas) Cowboys on April 15th," said Coleman. "After that I go to the (Chicago) Bears." Coleman is a very athletic defensive tackle with the ability to be very stout against the run and also get to the quarterback. He led the Sun Devils with 8.5 sacks, in 2013.
BluenSilver4evr

Peshek: DT Metrics 1.0  http://www.rotoworld.com/articles/cfb/46653/349/ou t-of-the-box
There’s always a bit of uncertainty when looking at metrics with interior line players, whether that’s on offense or defense. There’s so much going on in the trenches that it can be hard to assign blame or credit for specific plays. However, we can isolate different aspects of their game play which will allow a better look at what they each did specifically.



Compared to past pieces, this may seem light on huge charts and elaborate metrics. However, it may contain some of the most accurate metrics because it required me to go through and chart every snap of run and pass plays. That way, we can get an accurate picture of how efficient they were on a per snap basis, rather than just using totals. Remember things like pressures can be slightly subjective, so numbers may not match up to data from other services.

How well did they rush the passer?

PRR  

- We can see that Aaron Donald is nearly twice as efficient in pass rush as the next best DTs on the list. Coming in with a PRR of 6.42, his efficiency getting after the quarterback matches what you’d expect to see from the very best pass rushing linebackers and defensive ends in both college and the NFL. Frankly, this metric is exceptional for a defensive tackle.



- Timmy Jernigan’s pass rush efficiency is notably lower than the other defensive tackles on this list, coming in at 19.14, but that’s not totally a bad thing. This group of DTs are quality pass rushers and a PRR score of 19.14 wouldn’t be out of line for a 1st/2nd round defensive tackle in any other year.



- Without adding in batted passes at the line of scrimmage Hageman is still very productive, pressuring the QB once every 12.75 snaps. However, when you add on his penchant for knocking passes down, his PRR+ nears Aaron Donald’s. There may be concerns about Hageman taking plays off, but from a metrics standpoint he gets the results he needs to.



- Despite all the concerns and discussion about his weight, Sutton was still a quality pass rusher with a PRR similar to Hageman’s at 12.79. This would be enough to compare to DTs in the 2012 draft class likeSheldon Richardson and Sylvester Williams.

How did they do against the run?

Similar to the last section, I’ll break down the tackles’ impacts in the run game by looking at their rate of making effective tackles. An effective tackle is one that is behind the LOS or within 3 yards of the LOS, thus stopping a RB for a less than average run. The Eff Tak score is in the same format as PRR.

EffTak  

- Continuing on with his positive showing so far, Aaron Donald comes in at second among the first group of DTs, impacting the run game once every 9.4 snaps. It’s easy to think he might be a pass rush specialist only, but he clearly shows the ability to make impact tackles.

- Timmy Jernigan has the highest effective tackle rate of the first group of DTs at 7.24. This was plain to see when he faced Auburn, but Jernigan shows a well-roundedness by being able to affect the run game often.

- It’s likely that Hageman saw the least total run snaps among the entire DT class given the rotations from Minnesota. However, his supposed ‘lack of effort’ still did not show up, racking up a solid 11 Eff Tak rate.

- If you’re worrying about anyone being a pass rush specialist only, it might be Will Sutton. His Eff Tak rate is half that of Timmy Jernigan, making an impact tackle once every 14.75 snaps. How he’ll handle the run game at a lower weight is a question that needs to be answered.

How did they get their run stops?

This is a bit of an experimental section examining run stops. The goal is to see where the run goes - which is to say, if the DT is lined up over the right side A gap where did the run go relative to that alignment? I've found over the DT class, that around 47% of their tackles will be within 1 gap distance away. It's not a definitive measure and it's still something I'm examining, but I figure the more tackles a DT has (close to the LOS) further from the original alignment, the more range in the run game that player has. The chart represents the percentage of tackles made by distance from original alignment.

GapsDT  

- We can see that Donald has a lower percentage of tackles 0-1 gap away from his original alignment than average (33% vs 47%) and 14% of his tackles were further away than expected. Along with his quality tackles mentioned in the previous section, this indicates he could have superior range in making tackles we wouldn’t normally expect a DT to make.

- Timmy Jernigan has a higher percentage of tackles within 1 gap than we would expect, 55.6% compared to 47% to be exact. However, that’s more likely to be expected for a DT that often played over center or only slightly shaded off.

- Like Donald, Hageman displays impressive range where 25% of his tackles were made 4-7 alignment positions away. This matches well with the athleticism displayed on tape and in post-season testing.

- Sutton has a lower percentage of tackles 4-7 gaps away at only 10%, however a solid 50% of his tackles came 2-3 gaps away which shows an ability to be more than just a space filler.

Where did they line up?

AlignDTs  

- Aaron Donald primarily lined up directly over the right and left guards doing so 33.85% and 25.85% of the time respectively. It’s notable that he has the most experience rushing the passer on obvious passing downs from the outside where he did so approximately 6.5% of the time. He also had the least experience lining up directly over center.

- In Florida State’s scheme, Jernigan played directly over center and shaded off much more than players like Sutton and Donald. 38% of his pre-snap alignments came directly over center and he was shaded off center for another 30% of plays.

- Hageman saw a similar pattern of playing inside, however he didn’t play directly over center as often as Jernigan, only doing so 11% of the time. He saw alignments between the guard and center on the right and left 23% and 31% of the time respectively.

- Although he doesn’t have quite the outside experience that Donald does, Sutton aligned pre-snap much like Donald. With an even 35% on both sides, he faced off with the guards a total of 70% of the time. In total, 15% of his snaps came inside of the two guards.

That’s the extent of my data on the first group of defensive tackles. Any extra stats that didn’t make the article or info on future pieces will be on Twitter @NU_Gap. Thanks for reading.
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